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Monday, April 09, 2007

In defense of Jimmy Kimmel.



I'm usually loathe to involve this blog in silly blogosphere crap like this, but...

Above, witness Jimmy Kimmel, a moderately funny and very affable television host, sticking it to the alarmingly self-satisfied editor of Gawker. At issue is whether Gawker's celebrity coverage is appropriate, particularly the "Gawker Stalker," wherein "citizen journalists" tell Gawker exactly where and when they saw celebrities.

Here's the deal from my perspective: being a blogger is great. You can be irreverent, cute, whatever. But at some point, you have to take responsibility for something.

But Kimmel asks a pertinent question: "I know you're an editor, what exactly do you edit from this website?"

He's not exactly F. Lee Bailey when it comes to grueling cross-examinations, but he gets the point across.

She states, "Do you read Us Weekly and expect that everything in it is true?"

Well, I don't read Us Weekly, but even entertainment journalists check their facts and take responsibility for what they publish. That kind of "well, their ethics are questionable too!" stuff is horrible.

Kimmel hits her hard, I think, when he says to her, "I just want you to think about your life."

Then she brings up a second justification: "Honestly, I think there's a shifting definition of what is public and what is private space, for everyone, not just celebrities. No one has the reasonable expectation of being able to walk down the street and not have what they're doing be noticed by someone."

This, of course, is a specious legal argument, and Kimmel hits back on moral grounds:

"But that is just a terrible thing, though, isn't it?"

"Is it though? I think it's good that we're not putting people up on a pedastal any more..."

Does she seriously believe that she's not putting celebrities up on a pedestal? On a site called GAWKER?!

Putting celebrities down is just another kind of putting them on a pedestal. If she thinks she's doing something different from Us Weekly or even the Hollwood PR machine press of days gone by, she's kidding herself.

Well, that's not entirely true... there is one difference between the old and new celebrity media. The new celebrity media is just as worshipful of celebrity -- but it's dramatically meaner. Sometimes in the name of "snark," or "cattiness," but often just in the name of meanness.

I've never been a huge fan of Kimmel's comedy, but I think he runs a solid TV show and has had a very interesting career. Through that career, the one thing that has made him succesful above all else is his earnestness. Kimmel may be broad or gross or stupid or he may be insightful or edgy or funny, but he really seems to care about being himself and representing himself honestly. That gets him a long way, here, and is I think what made the clip so devastating, despite Kimmel's modest shortcomings as a debater.

The bottom line: this kind of snarky psuedo-journalism may be legal and it may be profitable, but that doesn't make it good or right.

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12 Comments:

Blogger Ronnie said...

"I hope when you arrive in hell someone doesn't send a text message saying 'Guess who's here?!"

That was a very classy smackdown.

April 09, 2007 8:07 PM  
Anonymous jillypie said...

I like the way you can set aside the fact that Jimmy isn't your cup of tea and write factually about what happened.

Excellent blog.

April 09, 2007 8:31 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Frankly, I'm surprised that the editor of Gawker hasn't worked out a rationalization that can withstand suspenders.

Meanness is easy. Pity those who weaponize it in the name of "citizen journalism" forget that a sword can also be used to point.

April 09, 2007 9:59 PM  
Anonymous Nate said...

That was a hit job--or Hitchens job perhaps--and you know it. All three of those wankers were ganging up on her. "I don't know why anyone would advertise on a website." What the heck does that even mean? He's acting like he's never seen Gawker before. If that's really the case and not a ruse, he should've done some research about his guests.

April 09, 2007 10:10 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If you've ever seen Jimmy's monologue you know full well he is biting the hand that feeds him.

April 10, 2007 6:21 AM  
Blogger Jesse Thorn said...

She knew why she was there. She chose to be there. She had plenty of opportunity to respond. It was hardly a hit job.

And I think that a comedian making jokes about celebrities is very different from a news outlet reporting on celebrities.

April 10, 2007 7:43 AM  
Blogger jb said...

That was a strange interview; I don't understand why the Gawker editor giggled through its entirety. The subject was certainly not a laughing matter. I know some people (esp. women) try to use laughter to deflect conflict, criticism or awkardness but its incredibly juvenile and offputting. Celebrities are beyond privileged and generally self-righteous so some of us may feel justified when we engage in libelous/slanderous or mean gossip but that doesn't mean that the behavior isn't wrong. What, of course, further complicates the matter, is that many people have facilitated their own celebrity and or professional advancement by maligning celebs so there is little motivation to stop.

April 10, 2007 9:39 AM  
Blogger Tim said...

Emily Gould sure came off as a petulant child, how is it she even managed to get work at hack site like Gawker?

April 10, 2007 8:53 PM  
Blogger Katie said...

"And I think that a comedian making jokes about celebrities is very different from a news outlet reporting on celebrities."

See here's the beef I have with that interview. As someone who reads Gawker on a regular basis, I see it having a very similar function to a comedian doing a monologue about a topical celebrity "news" story. It's a humour/gossip site. They have funny commentary on the news stories of the day. I don't think it's readers mistake it for a "news outlet."

April 12, 2007 9:29 PM  
Blogger Jesse Thorn said...

Katie, I disagree completely. If there weren't scoops, Gawker wouldn't exist.

Kimmel (and his writers, or those of any late-night comic) writes jokes about celebrity news simply because lots of people know about them. They'd never break a story -- they're a day behind (or much more), and that's by design.

People go to Gawker to get a snarky take on the latest celebrity news. With an emphasis on the latest celebrity news.

April 12, 2007 9:39 PM  
Blogger Katie said...

Thanks for the response, Jesse. I guess we'll have to agree to disagree.
I think scoops on Gawker are the exception not the rule. And I would say readers go to Gawker to get their perspective on the latest celbrity/publishing industry news, with the emphasis on their perspective.

April 13, 2007 12:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

There is no legal expectation of privacy in public. Hence, PUBLIC. There are no stalker maps of ordinary people because we're too lazy to text message every time "Bill from accounting went to the movies with someone that wasn't his wife"

But we probably should. Bill's wife would want us to.

November 02, 2007 5:29 AM  

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