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This week on Sawbones, Dr. Sydnee and Justin are doing the show everyone has always asked them to do, but they've been sort of afraid to until now. This week, lets talk about vaccines.
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Music: "Medicines" by The Taxpayers
I want to add another thank you for doing this episode. I'm starting graduate school this fall for microbiology and immunology. I took two weeks clearing up my immunization record with blood tests and shots because my records were lost and I don't regret a thing (even my 2nd Tdap vaccine in 5 yrs).
Anyway, thank you for braving the backlash to post this episode. I'm going to spread it as far as I can.
Loved how you tackled this topic, especially how in-depth you went on previous ways of trying to prevent smallpox. I'd studied the topic in several classes and learned even more during this episode than I did in the months of class! Vaccination is something I have always been really interested in, so this was really neat. Thanks for doing it! :)
I'm 77, so I got vaccinated for smallpox (and a number of other diseases,) as a school child. The public health service came to all school kids in Kansas in the late 1940's and 1950's. The whole class lined up, marched down the hall to the visiting nurse, and we each got our shots. You were considered a baby if you cried. Two weeks later we went back to get the next one in the series. no charge to parents, your tax money at work. (we did have a permission note that our parents had to sign, but no one ever thought of opting out)
My memory of smallpox is connected with my Uncle Harold, who had it as a teenager (he was born in 1900). His face was totally scarred, like a horror movie. When I had chickenpox and measles my mother was so afraid that my face would be scarred.
As a child in the 1940's, a good parent would want her child to get mumps, chickenpox and both the hard measles and german measles.; They had just discovered that if you had german measles during pregnancy, it would result in blindness in the baby,so it was considered important to have german measles as a girl, so you wouldn't have it when pregnant.
When I was a kid, we would have measles and chickenpox parties. If one kid had it, a group of mothers would get their kids together with the sick kid, so their kids would be exposed, so the hope was that the kid would get it while children and not adults.
Another memory, I remember being in Cuba in the early 1980's, when their public health gave every woman a german measles shot, the first year all the girls from 15-25; the next year the 25+ group. Women of childbearing age first.
I also remember polio, when you were afraid to be in crowds in the summer time, and how wonderful having polio vaccine was!
I never had whooping cough, but it was a cloud hanging over every mother's head, and like ashma, only worse. Kids would have their lungs fill up with flem and suffocate.
I have several friends who are crippled from the polio they had as a child.
I love your show.
This was a great episode. You spoke a little bit about herd immunity. I work in vaccine safety research and have learned that there are vaccine refusers who think that herd immunity is a myth. Here is a wonderful send up of vaccine refusal:
Also, concerning small pox, here is a recent press release from CDC:
Thank you guys so much for doing this show and helping to debunk some of the misinformation about vaccines floating around out there. I have asthma and work with the public in an area with a ton of anti-vaxxers, two factors that put me at high risk every flu season. At least I can get the vaccine, though. There are lots of people too young or immuno-compromised to get vaccinated, and the rest of us have a responsibility to them to maintain our herd immunity.
Sydnee and Justin,
Thank you so much for doing this show! As an immunologist this topic makes me crazy! I now teach the truth about vaccines to all of my college courses and you would be surprised how many of them didn't know that so much of the information out there is wrong. Thank you again! You are awesome! I love your show!
I'm 65 so I got the smallpox shot and then the polio shot in school. Too bad there was no MMR then because I got measles, mumps and chickenpox and brought that home to my kid sister who's 5 years younger than me. To this day, my 92 year old mom will say there's nothing worse that having 2 kids sick at the same time. Dr. Sydnee and Justin are right: get the shots. My son, now 34, got the shots BUT here was no chickenpox shot then and, as you guessed, he got chickenpox in June. No beach, no swimming, nothing for 2 weeks. He was itchy and miserable.
How to convince anyone to get the shots? Talk to moms who had kids sick with these and let them tell you about putting on that pink Calamine lotion to help with the itch or trying to feed a kid with mumps.
Thanks for this podcast.
Ooops, some smallpox was missed. http://www.npr.org/2014/07/09/330038131/researchers-aghast-over-discover...
How timely! And extra terrifying now that I know more about smallpox. o_O
Thank you so much for this episode. I've long been a passionate advocate for vaccines and I so appreciated your direct approach. This was an awesome episode. Thank you.
I was really worried about your Breast feeding, c-section and vaccine episodes. But as usual you guys did a GREAT job! Thanks for the wonderful podcast :)
WOO HOO!! Good job, McElroys!!!
I googled "small pox" Thanks to your really visceral description of the disease during the podcast & the first thing to come up is that janitors at a government lab in Maryland found a cardboard box w/ some forgotten vials of small pox. Now I'm terrified that it's just out there randomly chilling In labs until you know it's time for the lab yard sale & they finally get around to tidying up that particular room - thanks for your vigilance CDC
Justin's fears may be more rational than first thought...