Podthoughts by Colin Marshall: The Hopkinson Report

| 1 comment

Vital stats:
Format: social media marketing riffing and interviews
Duration: ~15m, though sometimes substantially longer
Frequency: more or less weekly
Archive available on iTunes: all

So I hear this “social media” stuff is pretty big these days. Specifically, I hear it from The Hopkinson Report [RSS] [iTunes], a more or less weekly audio dispatch from Jim Hopkinson, Wired magazine’s “marketing guy.” Having recently picked up marketing and advertising as intellectual interests (read: I realized I couldn’t market or advertise myself to save my life), I soon got Hopkinson and his Report as a recommendation.

It’s a pretty damned lively show. Hopkinson speaks at a rapid clip, almost like a more self-aware but no less enthusiastic infomercial host. Given the time constraint on each episode, his speaking speed would seem to come by necessity. He’s not pressed into John Moschitta territory or anything, but most of his shows clock in around fifteen minutes on average. Most of the time, he just takes a marketing technology, trend, question, or case study and riffs on it. There are occasional welcome longer-form episodes — interviews with authors and other sorts of creators — but there are three things us kids value above all in our media: brevity, brevity, and more brevity.

Again, that’s just something I’ve inferred from listening to the program itself. I’m glad I approach Podthinkable podcasts by simply plunging in, because if I’d read the episode titles in advance, I would’ve developed serious, itchy reservations. “4 Important Video Trends Worth Watching”. “5 Reasons You Should be Using a Twitter Client”. “Four steps to riding a viral video wave — Recognize, Hypothesize, Capitalize, Monetize”. “Social Media is the New Rock and Roll”. I keep washing and washing, but the dirt won’t come off. The dirt won’t come off.

Let me emphasize that, despite what those titles might imply, this is not a loathsome show. It actually delivers useful payloads with surprising frequency; it’s just that they’re often encased in those hokey shells. Hopkinson has some solid advice about résumés, for instance [MP3], although I think he neglected to mention how rarely the really cool work out there to do doesn’t ask for résumés at all. And he’s been in the technology game long enough that he can bring an interestingly wide perspective to certain trends, comparing what’s going on now to what went on in the eighties and early nineties.

As marketing podcasts go, I doubt The Hopkinson Report will unseat, say, CBC’s The Age of Persuasion (which may or may not turn out to have a secret podcast feed if you Google around) in my favorites list any time soon. This might just be because I’ve never felt entirely comfortable in my own era and generation. Sure, I’m on Twitter, I grasp the usefulness of Twitter, and I know how big Twitter is, but I still feel more than a little weirded out when listening to anything about “how to write great tweets.” I’ll stick to my sweater vests, the CBC, and Jim Hopkinson’s conversations with interesting self-marketers and his observations about Japanese toilets. You kids run along and turn your videos viral.

[Podthinker Colin Marshall also happens to be the host and producer of public radio’s The Marketplace of Ideas [iTunes], the blogger of The War on Mediocrity and the writer of The Ubuweb Experimental Video Project.]


Thanks for the review!

Hi Colin

Thanks for the podcast review! I strive to do two things with every podcast, inform and entertain.

In addition to another review that called the show "audible caffeine," I'm going to add your quotes of "a more self-aware but no less enthusiastic infomercial host" and "this is not a loathsome show" to my list of what people think.

I appreciate the feedback regarding the show titles, and in fact, this is one of the hardest things I work on each week. Sometimes I have the theme and headline in mind first and do the show, while other times it only becomes clear after my ranting has ended. Part of me wants to just write something descriptive and straightforward, but then the marketing/copywriter side of me pushes me to create something with more sizzle that will get attention on Twitter, Facebook, and blogs. It's a delicate balance.

One clarification if I may... you say the frequency is "more or less weekly." One of the things I'm most proud of is my consistency. With very few exceptions, (including a week in August when I was in the hospital with a broken arm), I've published every single Wednesday for the last 2+ years (125 episodes).

That's also where the topic of brevity comes in. Trust me, I like my YouTube clips under 30 seconds as well. But I've found that rather than blogging small things on a casual level multiple times per day, my audience enjoys one deep-dive look at a single topic each week.

Thanks again for the review. Feel free to reach out with any follow-up questions.

Jim Hopkinson